Aesthetic Inquiry: A New Idea for Human Science -- Leslie Kinyon

ISSS Meeting at Asilomar, June 28-July 2, 1999 
  • Paper Session, June 29, 1999, 1:20 p.m., chaired by Arne Collen 
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Leslie Kinyon

Conversations in creative studies. 

  • The process when artists go through creating new work. 
  • Similar between process in experimental method, and creation of something new. 
Concepts: 
  • Methodology (Toucheman) -- not the application of scientific method (i.e. epistemological), it's the capturing the object of study. 
  • Weber: to find meaning and understanding. 
  • Understanding has layers: deductive and inductive. 
  • Discipline: Artists often considered to be in ecstatic state, or be undisciplined. 
    • The techniques of form, color, ..., which are aesthetics. 
  • Art can be a language: writing, poetics, music. 
    • Music composition, the second most pure expression of language, after math. 
    • Music is a mystery, may predate language. 
Inquiry on aesthetic abilities we all have.

Ruth Richards, MD and Robin May, psychologist 

  • Aesthetics as noticing 
    • We know there's more to look at, and it become an encounter. 
    • Beyond colour. light and form. 
Gioto: understood perspective, created the basis for a lot of the Renaissance. 
  • An example of aesthetic noticing in action, impacted even science. 
Art requires discipline and effort, emphasis on creative may be detrimental.

Art is holistic. 

  • Glass artist inquiring into the nature of glass and light? 
    • Actually understands color, etc., as well as the physics of what he is doing. 
  • Art is completely self-referrent, and it must exist independent of the artist. 
  • Art can be generative: from something, or nothing. 
  • Similar to von Bertalanffy, in his criticism of reductionism. 
  • Won't understand the whole until you encounter the piece. 
Art is 1% ecstasy and 99% sweat. 
  • Think about the research which the artist conducted which led to the piece. 
  • Is this different from Malinowski? He went to place, and asked a question. 
Need to engage in conversation. 
  • Have a cyber-culture, which is beyond the written word. 
  • Instead of presenting at papers, perhaps we should present as singers? 
Arne: What the artist and scientist do isn't that much different. 
  • As a student, re-enact famous experiments. 
    • There's an aesthetic experience in that. 
Kant: chief architect of western ideas on aesthetics 
  • Beauty is disinterested. 
  • Richards, there's nothing more we want to get out of it. 
  • Aesthetic has no other purpose. 
    • Disagree: Notice is not disinterested. 
  • Another function: to remember. 
    • A marker in the memory, as we noticed it aesthetically. 
If the mind is holistic and holographic. 
 
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