"Commentary on Timothy F. H. Allen's presentation", Charles Francois, 49th Annual Meeting of the ISSS, Westin Cancun, July 2, 2005, 10:45 a.m.

Enrique Herrscher, ISSS president; Gary Metcalf, conference co-chair

49th Annual Meeting of the International Society for the Systems Sciences, Westin Cancun, July 2, 2005

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Introduction by Enrique Herrscher


A method and a person

[Charles Francois]

20 ideas: if comment on one, will be incomplete, and if on 20, will be confused

Scale description, versus the time description

Ecology as a transdiscipline

Technology changes society constantly

Question: what is education? Transferrence of knowlege, or teaching the art of living/

Thermodynamics: a new angle for me

Stafford Beer: anything we do, changes the situation, thus we must add a permanent cybernetic loop on how the situation is changing

Narrative without a model is dangerous





ISSS... Conferences... Cancun 2005